Martydom problem

Guys,I think we should seriously think about removing this perk. It ruins game as camping, but we cant do anything with camp. We can ban it as it was before. We have a lot gamers and most of them hate this! I am sure they will be gald about my idea! -.-

This topic was discussed several times. We allow to use martydoom and in other hand we gave stronger flak jacket perk as protection. Players just need to decide what they want: forget about nades? Or have more, for example, powered bullets. Banning perks can result also in loss of players. Especially popular perks like marty.

H3llo Soldiers. I hate both: martydom and betty. And I never use flak jacket, becouse it isnt my style, the same jugger - I hate this perk, becouse sometimes two shotgun bullet dont kill player. But unfortunatelly now we have got many young players on servers without skills and they need this perks, IMO. I remember the times, when we played on server 1 with a few people (Gavran, Hoosh ect.) That was sad moment and some PDE members told me: This is the end of CoD WaW. Now, both servers are full and i like it. Lets give chance for noobs, MrVandal. You are a GOD for younger players.

Then let people use gl,why it is banned?Let people use everything -.-

[PDE]Vandal215 wrote:Then let people use gl,why it is banned?Let people use everything -.-

It could be used as heavy crowed control when the server is full and would make alot of people leave because they can't do anything without being blown up. Take the map dome for example

Vandal, i see that you still screaming in game "Fucking Marty"!?
At 2012 (not sure the year) i was also repeated that sentence, and was banned (by UncleF.).
I think this topic (Marty-topic) is time-worn / the past!
Marty are good for a new players! As Flash said, ours both servers are full!

Martyr is not big problem for me. Ban all great players better this is problem Vandal you will be first heheh

I hate marty as much as the next person but if we ban that we can say goodbye to some of our player base. But there is another issue that I've seen recently. People just run around with a betty out and place it next to a player and die with or next to them like a suicide bomber

I don't think martyrdom itself should be banned, but I do think that martyrdom fireworks is a problem on crowded maps like Dome and Sub Pens. I run flak jacket a lot so I'm not used to having to dodge grenades. So I often get caught out because of a fireworks frag that someone dropped when I killed them, and I can't tell the difference between a normal frag or fireworks. So I think if you are going to do anything, ban Fireworks+Martyrdom being combined. But not either perk explicitly

I do not care , very annoying but okay